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| I know someone who our esteemed coach thinks is untouchable.......I can't bring myself to say/write his name....but he wears the no 17 shirt 
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| Thought McCoy's was very poor on Saturday but thought at Wigan he was excellent and showed something we had been missing whilst he was out. Let's hope Saturday was just a blip Lee the rest of the team. He must be nervously looking over his shoulder at Sutcliffe though
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| Quote The Eagle="The Eagle"Thought McCoy's was very poor on Saturday but thought at Wigan he was excellent and showed something we had been missing whilst he was out. Let's hope Saturday was just a blip Lee the rest of the team. He must be nervously looking over his shoulder at Sutcliffe though'"
If you mean McGuire I completely agree. He did play well against Wigan, it seems strange that his performance then wasn't acknowledged at the time.
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| Back to topic, Hardaker, Watkins, Sinfield, and Peacock for me. I like Moon also a lot, but would not term undroppable, and Ward when fit would be at the top. Anyone else I could give or take.
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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"If you mean McGuire I completely agree. He did play well against Wigan, it seems strange that his performance then wasn't acknowledged at the time.'"
Yeah, auto complete on my tablet is to blame there
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| If Moon was dropable (and he should be IMO) then after his last game it'd be deserved. Anonymous.
For me it's no coincidence that Hall has had his worst try return in years stood outside him. Combining the pair on the left's try count so far this year (31) it's a long way short of the haul amassed by Hardaker/Hall prior to Webb's injury and Ablett/Hall after (53)
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"If Moon was dropable (and he should be IMO) then after his last game it'd be deserved. Anonymous.
For me it's no coincidence that Hall has had his worst try return in years stood outside him. Combining the pair on the left's try count so far this year (31) it's a long way short of the haul amassed by Hardaker/Hall prior to Webb's injury and Ablett/Hall after (53)
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To do a fair analysis of that you'd have to work out how often the ball reached the left centre position, factoring in how long after the play the ball it came and in what measure of space. Then compare those algorithms between 2012 and 2013, with further calculations detailing when Lunt was at acting-half and McShane/Burrow/Sinfield.
That might be beyond even your time and inclination, but I'd wager the conclusion would be that if you get them quicker ball, they'd do better.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"If Moon was dropable (and he should be IMO) then after his last game it'd be deserved. Anonymous.
For me it's no coincidence that Hall has had his worst try return in years stood outside him. Combining the pair on the left's try count so far this year (31) it's a long way short of the haul amassed by Hardaker/Hall prior to Webb's injury and Ablett/Hall after (53)
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Where were you a couple of months ago when we had this discussion, I could have used some support? I agree entirely about Moon. Very dissapointing first season IMO. His service is poor and he is far too easily tackled. Creates space then cuts back inside far too regularly. A fairly dangerous runner but far from a complete cenrte and, in all honestly, not as good a left centre as Ablett was last year.
You're wrong about him being anonymous on Saturday. I recall him conceding apenalty on tackle 5 and throwing a ball into touch.
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| Think that's harsh on Moon G he's been starved of quality early ball all year in fairness.
I'm not saying he's been brilliant either and indeed he has had some average/poor games as have the whole team but i still think he's shown some very good signs and with the right supply could prove to be a creative big game winner for us.
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| thought he started off well, then has tailled off quite badly
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| Quote G1="G1"Where were you a couple of months ago when we had this discussion, I could have used some support?'"
I can't believe the sports bra I sent you never arrived. Bloody Royal Mail, no wonder it's getting privatised.
Quote G1="G1"You're wrong about him being anonymous on Saturday. I recall him conceding a penalty on tackle 5 and throwing a ball into touch.'"
Both in the opening four minutes, IIRC. It would be interesting to see how many times Leeds compound an error with a penalty in the following set - seems to happen all the time ..... especially from Jones-Buchanan.
Leeds only conceded three penalties in total on Saturday and two of them followed not completing on their own set of possession.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"If Moon was dropable (and he should be IMO) then after his last game it'd be deserved. Anonymous.
For me it's no coincidence that Hall has had his worst try return in years stood outside him. Combining the pair on the left's try count so far this year (31) it's a long way short of the haul amassed by Hardaker/Hall prior to Webb's injury and Ablett/Hall after (53)
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I smell tvoc agendas. Moon is a very good centre. His 21 tackles at Warrington were hardly "anonymous" He is I think our top tackling back making more than a 100 more tackles than Watkins. He has made just one less try assist than Watkins in over 20% less carries. I note your stats do not record that Moon is 2nd equal (with Hall) top try scorer.
It is no coincidence either that Hall has has a very mixed season with long periods out of form. Hall comfortably heads the handling error table with 41 so far this year and has been far from sharp often over running Moon and often coming out of the line to make a missed tackle too. You mention Webb who used to join the line on our left as a 2nd stand off to create regular overlaps for Hall. With our current full back this just doesn't happen and who produces far fewer try assists. Add to this a season of out of form McGuire too and it is no wonder our backs have not seen much quality ball as before.
To form a judgement on flaky coincidences is on a par with those positional superstitions.
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