In years to come and the next generation of fans read the history books and see his name in those GF winning teams and the other big games,and when this squad has its reunions coming onto the pitch,he will still be part of a legendary era.Wether he was fortunate to be there is another thing

Have we not been here before ?





Somehow I think Kirke will continue to defy logic and still gain a place in the first 17 for a large part of the season.....

I hope he does Mr Nantwichexile.....I really do.....



and he will allus be part of Leed's history....grand finals and all.....



but he was wi'out a doubt woeful on Sunday........

Some folk are never happy! Kirke's stated he's prepared to fight for his place in the U20s, what more do you want?

As much as I share a lot of other posters feelings towards Kirke, I must admit, his hit on Solomona in the playoff last year was a beauty and sent a clear statement to Warringtons pack.

We have been here before, and he keeps getting a decent amount of game time each season. Last season Kirke was probably behind both Cross & Burgess at the start of the season, but the club were happy enough with their options to let them both go. Now with the props we have this year I see him as 5th/6th choice. However, I'm not a GF winning coach, nor am I a CEO who has delivered 5 GF wins in 8 years, so if he plays or gets a new contract then I am happy to bow to superior knowledge & judgement on the matter.

I forgot about that! It truly was an awesome hit....right up to the point where he went to help him back up! Still, set the tone for the game though.

How very dare you Madam! It is common knowledge within the Southstander intelligentsia that the only sensible gauge of a players worth is the number of Grand Final winners rings in his possession.



The Boy Kirke has 4, ergo he is beyond criticism, and in no way can be held to account for the dismal display of the other 12 spotty oiks who turned out at the weekend.



Perhaps they were overawed to have such an illuminary within their ranks?

I think we can all recount moments of excellence from Kirkey over the years. But these are very few and far between; all fans want is 100% effort for the team. I feel sorry for him that he does receive a lot of stick, but he rarely proves the doubters wrong.

I've said before that he should be the natural successor to JP. Sadly the fact that they are a similar size is where the comparison ends as JP has got the heart of a lion.

We would all love him to finally reach his potential; how long do we wait though?

I think a lot of Kirke's failure to reach his fullest potential might be down to ambition. Don't get me wrong, he has achieved plenty, but I think given his size and athleticism he could have been a real star rather than a steady-away interchange player. I'm not sure he really believed that though.



I retain some appreciation of his contribution, perhaps more than most, but his raw numbers didn't stack up last year and he certainly hasn't been as good as he, IMHO, could have been. Which given that he's still helped us win 4 titles is perhaps more sad for him than for us.

It would've been a better excuse than saying he didn't know x's name in the U20s.