It seems to me that that is exactly like the game down under.

Glad to see you're agreeing with me agreeing with you .... maybe.

But there's nothing wrong with healthy debate.

If you notice I try never to descend to name calling, you're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

I respect that.

Regrettably, many on here don't.

Of course it benefits England to have players with NRL experience in the side. Whether it benefits England enough to make a difference vs Aus in terms of getting really close or even beating them is a different issue. Unless we get a pair of halfbacks, some decent threequarters and a good fullback, it probably won't matter that much though.

It will probably benefit in England if more players play the NRL as it will help to remove the mysticism and demonstrate that one or two players are just boofheads - albeit talented (esp. when compared to man in street).

Indeed - anyone who thinks Adrian Morley wasn't improved significantly as a player by his stint at the Roosters is losing the plot.



Having just one player out of 17 with those raised standards however doesn't do you much good.

So what your saying is that it was the system was the reason he wasn't shining? Not too sure about that. Agree that Noble's tactics were poor though, hence he isn't here any more. But he was outshone at every level by players like Joel Tomkins, and wouldn't have been in the first team (imo) this year without Noble had he stayed.

I'd have expected Morley to improve over those six seasons whether he had stayed in the UK or gone out to Australia. His best individual performance in a GB shirt, for me, remains one from '97.

I'm not suggesting he isn't a better player for it but Ellis's international performances since he went down under have been poorer than before, IMO.

Not that I am dissagreeing with you. But Adrian Morley went down there still relatively young. He was always going to improve anyway, regardless of which league he played in.

his dad (KENNY) reckons he'll see out his time at the club he supported as a boy, castleford. and before you mock his dad told me he was going to oz a full year before he did although he did say manly but wests came up with the better deal.

You mean Castleford Wildcats by the time he comes back?