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I do think there was a split camp in Australia but that’s now history and its back on with thre season. Hopefully Tony Smith noticed this and he’ll improve it in the game against France. Personally however I just don’t think players like to travel half way across the world to play rugby.



James Roby spent most of his time missing his young son and wife whilst we all know what was on Keith Seniors mind!

I think he's right, I hate saints or should that be pity????

With the lack of any real rivalry from Bulls these days, Saints are clearly our biggest rivals

Sad to say that after Leeds (of course) Saints were always my favourite team - primarily because they play the kind of rugby I really like.



Our traditional enemies I think were alway Wigan, Bradford (and to a much lesser extent these days) Warrington.



Still I do hope we get one over on them tonight. I suspect our result against Wigan was somewhat flattering as someone forgot to tell them the game had started until it was 20 minutes too late. Think we may be onto our first loss of the season...

I have to say i dont hate leeds, and as a student went to watch them. I think its due to growing up in the late 80's/early 90's when Leeds and Saints were the only teams with half a chance of beating wigan! If you were'nt our main (only

) real rivals now i would probably still wish you all the success of coming 2nd

Well as the last 2yrs have proved coming 1st hasn't done you lot any good!!

I don't understand where the "love" thing comes from?

Saints are the big rivals at the moment, which is probably what matters to the players. To me Wigan will probably always be the main enemy, althoughh when I lived and worked in Leeds, the Bradford results always mattered because of the large number of Dulls fans I knew.

I don't feel too good.

Saints used to be very much like us when I first started watching the game, a flair side that won very little. I quite liked them.



The they got to be quite successful, taking the mantra from the hated Wigan. I quited liked them.



Then they would regularly bring the Bulls down a peg or two when the Bulls were going well and it was dark days for us. I quite liked them.



However, there's no doubt the rivalry has intensified over the last couple of years and their fans arrogance about their place just behind us as Sl elite team these last few years has meant I now like them less.

Similar to you in SL terms, I liked them because they were the only team who would beat Wigan and Bulls to trophies. When Millward took over and turned them into cheats I started to like them less. Now they implode at Old Trafford annually I quite like them again