On what do you base those thoughts on?, a better stadium and er what else exactly.

I don't want to get into a slanging match, this is just my honest opinion as I see it. But Widnes do have a backer with considerable wealth too, rather than a bloke with an IVA to his name. I know this may change if and when Wakie find a new owner. But as it stands, at this point in time they are a better prospect. Yes, their team is not up to standards but they will have plenty of time to sort that if and when they get the nod.

Better youth academy, probably bigger crowds, able to spend the salary cap etc.

I think the one thing we can all agree is that the time for talk has been and gone.

The measuring contests are a thing of the past, now it's time for action.



Over to Sir Rodney and Jack Fulton, show us your cards!

The time for talking went three years ago. The next few weeks - and indeed months - will shape both clubs' futures.

Which is why we should have had "mutual support" for each others projects all along.

Convincing the public of Wakefield (and SL) that our derby days are worth keeping. We energize a whole region for those weekends, SL will be much poorer without it. This IMO comes from having separate grounds, with the fans putting on their "battle armour" and heading across the city to fight for local pride.



Does anyone think that throwing muck has got either of us anywhere?

IMO if we'd spent more time supporting and less time undermining we would both be much further on because of it. SL set out to divide and conqueror and to an extent we played right into their hands.

Quote dickie mint="dickie mint"On what do you base those thoughts on?, a better stadium and er what else exactly.'" The owner of Widnes is very wealthy with excellent business connections. The owner of wakefield is in an IVA. Since Steve O'connor took over Widnes they have been financially sound. Recently posting a £1m profit ( www.runcornandwidnesweeklynews.c ... -27179196/ ) In less than a year Wakefield have faced 2 winding up orders from HMRC. HTH.

Quote dickie mint="dickie mint"On what do you base those thoughts on?, a better stadium and er what else exactly.'" The owner of Widnes is very wealthy with excellent business connections. The owner of wakefield is in an IVA. Since Steve O'connor took over Widnes they have been financially sound. Recently posting a £1m profit ( www.runcornandwidnesweeklynews.c ... -27179196/ ) In less than a year Wakefield have faced 2 winding up orders from HMRC. HTH.

Out of the 3 i would of said Wakey are nailed on to be relegated, but i saw some odds from the bookies the other day and was very surprised to see Cas as the favourites for the drop

A bookies in Wakefield by any chance ?

(I don't know why I have to keep repeating this, but) Bookies odds do not reflect the likelihood of something happening. They're based on the amount of money bet and the potential loss to the bookmakers if something happens. Nothing more.

=#0040FFRiggins said; Land deal was in place 2 or 3 years ago. Price agreed then.

Next.



That's what Ted Richardson thought until Sainsburys (allegedly)welched on the deal, and look where that got him!



Hopefully your deal is a bit more secure than Teds, and with the Hicksons thing being sorted you can steam on ahead.



Did the issue of the access land that RW wanted the council to compulsorily purchase ever get sorted, and if not is it a 'show stopper'.

It never was a problem. It was only Wakey fans that made it sound like it was.