What an amazing front page... Eye tests for a tenner? Brilliant!

So who would that leave most stumped?? We have funding to build our ground whereas Cas don't but without the land lease which we both have been promised we are both a bit knackered. Can Cas carry on, on their own with no council support? Can Wakey proceed without the land lease, would our developer fund the land purchase in order to get the wider development??



Lots of questions, only one answer is that the council are faffing around again.

Tell us again, where is the funding coming from for Newmarket?

Tell us exactly where you are regarding a public enquiry whilst you are at it as well

I feel sorry for cas and wakey, no one knows whats going on

You say "We have funding to build our ground" but then contradict yourself with "Can Wakey proceed without the land lease"

York Court Properties. Of course the real agenda is for the big industrial units. Providing these community sporting facilities should greatly increase chances of gaining planning permission. A loss leader kind of thing. hth

Do you honestly believe that greenbelt land (200 acres approx) will be given up to a development of that magnitude on the basis of a stadium, I would be very jittery about this, if i was you, but good luck



[url=http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:LBEAoU7DjuYJ:www.sportengland.org/facilities__planning/planning_tools_and_guidance/idoc.ashx%3Fdocid%3Dd1d378be-b018-44bf-9453-25e675b10018%26version%3D3+sport+for+all+green+belt&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShgM3IyWbtIekvw_NYl61-VS8HIGEynp0eMo84rU0LoylIu3Erg-e5iKkJzaHOk5XXqSDvp6G5yEL7RwjLoOMdMegJ-Y8i2yhckUT3hdwSaufJPw_JhOFinuSan9TL8YLldWNiT&sig=AHIEtbQhi2_dd2OTwacg5NIE0Lay1cuIgQI Would Read This from page 9[/url



Planning and refusals and enquiries cost lots and lots of money, i know ive been involved in them and that wasnt green belt

Do you honestly believe that Yorkcourt( or their bank

) will splash out 15/20 million on a stadium plus infrastructure before they have sold or let a single industrial/retail/hotel/ unit?

Well the planning application for the industrial units is on the condition that the sporting facilities are built. So I'm sure they have run the sums and considered every possible objection and seen it as viable. The project does seem a lot more financially solid than Glasshoughton, hence the reason for Castleford desperate attempt at a money grab from what is a separate project.

Speedy's put a link up (elsewhere) to some very interesting reading indeed. It seems our colleagues from down the road have been a little disingenuous when compiling the Newmarket application:



> Citing excellent public transport links (apparently) which the Highways Agency have poo-poohed by pointing out that the bus services they rely on don't actually run on matchdays and there are no plans from the bus company to change that fact.

> Noise levels originally quoted now being disputed by Environmental Health after doing their own surveys and reaching contradictory conclusions.

> Claims that no other development has been proposed for the area being exposed, given that applications for both a housing development and some kind of gas storage facility are or have been (pardon the pun) in the pipeline.

> Leeds City Council blocking the proposal after themselves previously touting the area as prime for development and being told by the UDP it would be an 'inappropriate' use of green belt land.

> Not to mention the poor old otters...



I've only had a cursory glance at the objections (the environment objections run to thirty odd pages alone) and sure, the Newmarket development might not be quite dead yet, but you've got to say it's definitely coughing up blood.

As my learned friend Disco has pointed out and just to repeat myself .......

I could be wrong here and im sure the polecats will pounce, but if it has to go to a public enquiry, then the secretary of state has to be involved, and rarely does planning permission be given, It may allow for sports purposes the building of a stadium, depending on many factors, but i doubt anything else. [url=http://www.wakefieldccg.co.uk/green-belt.htmlIm sure the Nimby's are banging their drums as we speak[/url, so its not going to be plain sailing. The highways Agency arent happy yet either " [url=http://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/lg/GFPlanningDocuments.page?org.apache.shale.dialog.DIALOG_NAME=gfplanningsearch&Param=lg.Planning&viewdocs=true&SDescription=10/00225/OUTintresting Reading, If you can be Arsed[/url Especially from Leeds Council in section 5

Oooer the dreaded otters section 8 statutory responses Ecology





Also........

Under the Town and Country Planning Acts there is a presumption in favour of development. However within the Green Belt this situation is reversed and there is a general presumption against inappropriate development. Such development should not be approved, except in very special circumstances.



Inappropriate development is by definition harmful to the Green Belt. Very special circumstances will not exist unless the harm by reason of inappropriateness, and any other harm to the Green Belt, is clearly outweighed by other considerations. This is a tough test and it is for the applicant to show why permission should be granted. Whilst it is for the local planning authority to judge the special circumstances being put forward it would be unreasonable to give weight to a matter which national policy is unlikely to view as a very special circumstance. For example the fact that something can or cannot be seen should not be a determining factor. Planning applications for inappropriate development will, therefore, by their very nature, conflict with the development plan and if the Council wishes to grant permission the proposal must be treated as a departure from the development plan and referred to the Secretary of State.



That will cost a small fortune, believe me, and i has to be bourne by the developer in the first instance, they may get recompensed if the enquirery is sucessful, but its not always that way, Ive been involved pesonally with one of these and it is a long drawn out issue,