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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Tim Farron wont like that!!'"
Your seem obsessed with what Tim Farron will or won't like; you are aware he resigned, yes?
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| JC on glasto stage tonight. Unconfirmed reports he will reprise snoop dogs raps on California Girls with Katy Perry complete with shades and a large nhs approved spliff.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"The Tories won by virtue of 1m more votes and a larger share of the vote than Blair ever managed. They conducted the worst campaign ever and still labour couldn't get across the line.
Mrs May will be gone by the Autumn - I think Liam Fox will be the next PM. Tim Farron wont like that!!'"
What you say is of course true but, what is the actual cost of May's disastrous leadership and worse GE campaign.
She has turned the Tories from a strong political party, with a sizeable lead in the polls into a party running scared, siding with the political wing of a terrorist sympathising party and utterly incapable of negotiating with the EU27.
Even her opening gambit, on immigration and the rights of UK citizens abroad and EU citizens in the UK, which should have been solid and unambiguous, has been pulled apart by her counterparts in the EU.
She needs to go quickly and give us a chance of regaining some credibility.
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| Quote Dazzler66="Dazzler66"I'm seriously thinking of voting labour next time to see if he can walk the walk as good as he is talking the talk.'"
There is an intrigue there I guess with that, similar to slowing down on the motorway to get a good look at a car crash. His ego in charge of running the country, good god.
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| Quote Dazzler66="Dazzler66"JC on glasto stage tonight. Unconfirmed reports he will reprise snoop dogs raps on California Girls with Katy Perry complete with shades and a large nhs approved spliff.'"
Not quite - but he did pull pints for the punters afterwards.
Interestingly, the MSM have used this as their latest attempt to smear him; he should have been at the Armed Forces event instead, they were bribed by the promise of uni fees being abolished, bet he wouldn't get the same reception at Ascot (?!) etc etc blah blah.
Perhaps the winner of the ridiculously desperate right wing response to this, was from washed up has-been Edwina Currie, who objected that he was preaching about fairness and a more equal society, to a crowd who had the audacity to spend £240 for a Glastonbury ticket; clearly, the unwashed need to spend more time wallowing in poverty - and can't have political legitimacy if they're able to save up for a big event?
Whichever side of the political divide you come from, this man deserves credit for energising young people and getting them interested in politics; might be a bit scary for Tories to think that young people will take part in our democracy - but it's absolutely and unequivocally a good thing if the people who will inherit the future, take a bit of control of it back from old people.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"Not quite - but he did pull pints for the punters afterwards.
Interestingly, the MSM have used this as their latest attempt to smear him; he should have been at the Armed Forces event instead, they were bribed by the promise of uni fees being abolished, bet he wouldn't get the same reception at Ascot (?!) etc etc blah blah.
Perhaps the winner of the ridiculously desperate right wing response to this, was from washed up has-been Edwina Currie, who objected that he was preaching about fairness and a more equal society, to a crowd who had the audacity to spend £240 for a Glastonbury ticket; clearly, the unwashed need to spend more time wallowing in poverty - and can't have political legitimacy if they're able to save up for a big event?
Whichever side of the political divide you come from, this man deserves credit for energising young people and getting them interested in politics; might be a bit scary for Tories to think that young people will take part in our democracy - but it's absolutely and unequivocally a good thing if the people who will inherit the future, take a bit of control of it back from old people.'"
Yes, bribing them with unaffordable and uncosted scrapping of fees, what a masterstroke.
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| Quote PCollinson1990="PCollinson1990"Yes, bribing them with unaffordable and uncosted scrapping of fees, what a masterstroke.'"
Point proved - and as long as the establishment keep ignoring or patronising young people like that, support for Corbyn will continue to grow; I'm all for it.
By the way - the average age of Glastonbury attendees is 36.
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| Quote PCollinson1990="PCollinson1990"Yes, bribing them with unaffordable and uncosted scrapping of fees, what a masterstroke.'"
If it was uncosted how do you know it was unaffordable?
Meanwhile the delightful Andrea Leadsom has stated news reporters should be more patriotic. A step towards fascism.
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| Quote PCollinson1990="PCollinson1990"Yes, bribing them with unaffordable and uncosted scrapping of fees, what a masterstroke.'"
Snap. We're already living in a country that is obsesses with what they can get for free or cheap and he's starting off a whole generation in politics thinking it's all about who can offer the best freebies. Incredibly short sighted to think this is the way to go and what attitude it'll create when Corbyn is long gone and other politicians have to pick up his mess. If you can only get people interested in politics by offering free stuff then I think we're better off without them having an interest.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"Not quite - but he did pull pints for the punters afterwards.
Interestingly, the MSM have used this as their latest attempt to smear him; he should have been at the Armed Forces event instead, they were bribed by the promise of uni fees being abolished, bet he wouldn't get the same reception at Ascot (?!) etc etc blah blah.
Perhaps the winner of the ridiculously desperate right wing response to this, was from washed up has-been Edwina Currie, who objected that he was preaching about fairness and a more equal society, to a crowd who had the audacity to spend £240 for a Glastonbury ticket; clearly, the unwashed need to spend more time wallowing in poverty - and can't have political legitimacy if they're able to save up for a big event?
Whichever side of the political divide you come from, this man deserves credit for energising young people and getting them interested in politics; might be a bit scary for Tories to think that young people will take part in our democracy - but it's absolutely and unequivocally a good thing if the people who will inherit the future, take a bit of control of it back from old people.'"
Was that the same Edwina Currie who said that that there wasn't a problem with child poverty in the UK and cited increased numbers of child obesity to "back up" her comment.
I think it's best that we realise that many Tory MP's (and some Labour MP's) just dont live in the real world, which is particularly dangerous when they are asked to solve issues, without the slightest bit of understanding of those problems.
It's probably why they were happy to cut disability benefits, because it wont affect them !
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| To be a competent MP you therefore need to have kids, experienced poverty, be disabled............ What utter nonsense.
Maybe you could talk us through Jezzas non political experiences which make him so competent. (Leave the private schooling, never worked outside of Parliament, brought up in a wealthy home, earns £100+k etc)
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| Quote PrinterThe="PrinterThe"Snap. We're already living in a country that is obsesses with what they can get for free or cheap and he's starting off a whole generation in politics thinking it's all about who can offer the best freebies. Incredibly short sighted to think this is the way to go and what attitude it'll create when Corbyn is long gone and other politicians have to pick up his mess. If you can only get people interested in politics by offering free stuff then I think we're better off without them having an interest.'"
What an inane comment. If you distill your argument to the extreme, you would be happy with a few warlords or whatever they might be taking all the wealth 99.9999999% living at subsistence level - in other words like a very bad case of Communism. Any robust, successful, democratic society / nation can only survive by co-operation and the question becomes how the government tweaks the fiscal system and law to arrive at a working, reasonable and 'fair' distribution of wealth and resources. The current situation is unsustainable and so thinking needs to change. As a writer (in I think the right-wing press) wrote after (!) Corbyn had lost the recent election - he could not see what all the panic and fuss was about Corbyn's very modest, democratic socialist manifesto had been.
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